Askrene and xpay improve by rustyrussell · Pull Request #9150 · ElementsProject/lightning

rustyrussell · 2026-05-20T08:47:32Z

Depends on #9138

This prepwork for repeatpay improves askrene and xpay:

Cleans up JSON ids for plugins, now they're always strings.
Add "success" knowledge to askrene, and have xpay use it.
Make askrene's explain-failure smarter when we have insufficient funds.
Simplify recurrence handling (repeatpay will ensure consistency).
Make sure currency-based offers give invoices with 10-minute timeouts, for currency fluctuations.

cdecker

ACK 9b3f051

Lagrang3 · 2026-05-25T09:55:56Z

Overall I like the improvements introduced in this PR.
Askrene's layers as they are right now, convey unprocessed information in the form of
constraints and impressions with their associated timestamp. There is not space for interpretation here.

In this way we delegate the interpretation to the moment when we call getroutes:
"given these channel intels we recorded in time what do you think is the most likely current liquidity range".
I wanted to add a smooth time relaxation of the channel constraints and it can be very much
compatible with this abstraction if we implement it this way.

Lagrang3 · 2026-06-18T08:37:34Z

rebased,
fixed memory leak,
added unit tests for str_to_u64,

Lagrang3 · 2026-06-22T12:40:55Z

rebased
fixed xpay tests after changes in the "explain failure" messages

Lagrang3 · 2026-06-25T08:55:49Z

+							       &scidd, &timestamp, &msat)) {
+				/* We don't convert, just omit these */
+				if (!convert_impression)
+					copy_data(&out, data_in, olddata - data_in);


Is this correct? Why is olddata >= data_in?
I thought wire's cursors moved to greater values after reading.

Lagrang3 · 2026-06-25T12:43:52Z

On one commit comment:

commit 199e0572040e13e86c580897f694e63faf347766 (HEAD)
Author: Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>
Date:   Wed May 20 18:00:49 2026 +0930

    askrene: correctly order constraints.
    
    Pure "constraints" don't care about order (they simply clamp max and
    min), but "impressions" are relative, so they do.  Change the
    hashtable to keep them timestamp sorted.
    
    Signed-off-by: Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>

Ordering is awesome! Besides the fact that impressions being relative do care about order, it can also be argued that "pure constraints" should also because older constraints are less reliable than the more recent.

Lagrang3 · 2026-06-25T13:30:42Z

added a small optimization: now that "channel intels" are sorted by timestamp we can remove old entries with a single realloc,
rebased,

Lagrang3 · 2026-06-26T05:40:09Z

added a new case to "explain failure", for capacity that is known and enabled.

Lagrang3 · 2026-07-01T10:49:18Z

replaced

tal_free(intelarr[i].impression);
tal_free(intelarr[i].constraint);

with

tal_steal(tmpctx, intelarr[i].impression);
tal_steal(tmpctx, intelarr[i].constraint);

rebased

Lagrang3 · 2026-07-02T11:23:03Z

fixed some failing tests due to change in the error messages,
rebased

Shades of `efacada7ddf` which did the same thing in multifundchannel: (ab)used the id, which being a string, gave and id of 34 ("). Also clean up the leftover assert in multifundchannel. Signed-off-by: Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>

We used to handle it being a literal, but this was removed in 73fc9b0 (v25.05) so we don't need to handle that at all. Not using the raw JSON means we handle weird methodnames by replacement: otherwise we would not match the responses. Only an issue for commando, where the command would time out rather than report "Unknown method". Signed-off-by: Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>

…ngs. In particular, "struct jsonrpc_request"'s id is always a string. cmd->id isn't, though. We can also remove the now-unused json_get_id. Signed-off-by: Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>

We have three uses already, about to add a fourth. Signed-off-by: Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>

The prior implementation could read past the end of the buffer (we actually pad our JSON so this isn't harmful, but still). Fix up json_to_s64 and json_to_double too, but since they're not used as often, just copy the string there. Signed-off-by: Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au> Co-Authored-By: Claude Haiku 4.5 <noreply@anthropic.com>

Signed-off-by: Lagrang3 <lagrang3@protonmail.com>

Currently used for offers, we will use it for repeatpay too. Signed-off-by: Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>

Normal constraints are clamps on min/max caused by failed payments: min for the channels that succeeded, max for the channel which failed. Impressions are the results of successful payments, which alter both min and max (negatively in the forward direction, positively in the reverse). impression: n 1. An effect, feeling, or image retained as a consequence of experience. 2. A vague notion, remembrance, or belief. 3. A mark produced on a surface by pressure. Unlike constraints, this is the result of our own effect on the network: they're related but different enough to get their own API and terminology. The name conveys both we made an impression on the channel, and that the results are a bit vague (due to other changes since then, which we won't know about). Signed-off-by: Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au> Changelog-Added: JSON-RPC: `askrene` layers now contain "impressions" representing the effects of successful payments we made through channels.

…n downgrading to v26.06. Signed-off-by: Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>

channeld_fakenet sudbdaemon purposedly crafted for this test needs updating to account for funds moving after every success payment. I've tried to fix that but in doing so I also triggered an xpay bug not related to this PR. Therefore, for the moment we skip this test. Changelog-None Signed-off-by: Lagrang3 <lagrang3@protonmail.com>

Signed-off-by: Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>

Pure "constraints" don't care about order (they simply clamp max and min), but "impressions" are relative, so they do. Change the hashtable to keep them timestamp sorted. Signed-off-by: Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>

from a tal array. Changelog-None Signed-off-by: Lagrang3 <lagrang3@protonmail.com>

On deletion of individual channel intel entries we need to free the pointer inside the structure. Changelog-None Signed-off-by: Lagrang3 <lagrang3@protonmail.com>

Use a single realloc to remove old entries. Changelog-None Signed-off-by: Lagrang3 <lagrang3@protonmail.com>

It diagnoses if the *total capacity* of the source/dest are insufficient, but not if the *known capacity* is. So we get: The shortest path is 103x1x0->105x1x0, but 103x1x0/1 layer auto.localchans says max is 77704899msat Whereas it would be better to do: We know from auto.localchans that source has maximum capacity xxx msat (in 1 channels) Similarly for the destination, we get: The shortest path is 103x1x0->105x1x0, but 103x1x0/1 layer auto.localchans says max is 77704899msat

Add PAY_INSUFFICIENT_FUNDS and PAY_ROUTE_NOT_FOUND, and give nice detailed errors for those. Signed-off-by: Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au> Changelog-Changed: JSON-RPC: `getroutes` can now return PAY_INSUFFICIENT_FUNDS (215) and PAY_DESTINATION_INSUFFICIENT_CAPACITY (220) error codes.

Changelog-None Signed-off-by: Lagrang3 <lagrang3@protonmail.com>

Consider the case in which payment fails due to not enough "known enabled" liquidity. Notice that we cover the "known" and "enabled" cases already. But: known_enabled <= enabled and known_enabled <= known Changelog-None Signed-off-by: Lagrang3 <lagrang3@protonmail.com>

…rrencies. Co-Authored-By: Claude Sonnet 4.6 <noreply@anthropic.com> Signed-off-by: Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>

…ersion. This mirrors the previous commit, where we did it for recurring offers. Co-Authored-By: Claude Sonnet 4.6 <noreply@anthropic.com> Signed-off-by: Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au> Changelog-Fixed: Offers: we set a 10 minute expiry when we create invoices for offers in other currencies.

We don't actually need to enforce this check here: we can make that the users' responsibility. This simplifies our work quite a lot, since createinvoicerequest won't have to do a lookup any more. This can be done by the repeatpay plugin itself. Signed-off-by: Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>

This is an undocumented interface, so we can just change it. Rename "recurrence_label" to the more general "label", now we don't require it to find previous payments. Signed-off-by: Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>

Signed-off-by: Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>

Lagrang3 · 2026-07-06T10:46:17Z

temporarily skipped test test_xpay_fake_channeld, the fix for this test triggers an older bug in xpay (see xpay: fakenet test: move funds when payment succeeds #9282),
rebased

Lagrang3 · 2026-07-06T11:04:31Z

Perfect is the enemy of good. I don't want to delay anymore this PR, it is ready for review.

I had to skip test_xpay_fake_channeld which is probably failing for more than one reason.
As far as I know one reason is the fact that the simulated network has fixed liquidity which is not compatible
with the impressions view of the network we gain in this PR. To fix this test I have upgraded the
channeld_fakenet daemon and then discovered that this triggers an older bug in xpay (see #9282).

Also the way impressions move the min/max bars in the channels are too strong in my opinion.
These will be revised and tested in a further PR.

Fix test_explain_source_dest_failure by increasing the amounts by a factor of ten, which reduces the relative significance of on-chain fees on the commitment transaction. This used to fail on liquid-regtest due to insufficient liquidity on l2->l4 to prevent channel starvation. At line ``` l1.rpc.xpay(l4.rpc.invoice('30000sat', 'test_explain_simple_failures2', 'test_explain_simple_failures2')['bolt11']) ``` we would get ``` lightningd-2 2026-07-06T11:29:09.973Z DEBUG 02287bfac8b99b35477ebe9334eede1e32b189e24644eb701c079614712331cec0-channeld-chan#3: Adding HTLC would leave us only 19454000msat: we need 25281sat for another HTLC if fees increase from 7500perkw to 13906perkw lightningd-2 2026-07-06T11:29:09.973Z DEBUG 02287bfac8b99b35477ebe9334eede1e32b189e24644eb701c079614712331cec0-channeld-chan#3: Adding HTLC 0 amount=30000000msat cltv=130 gave CHANNEL_ERR_CHANNEL_CAPACITY_EXCEEDED ``` Changelog-None Signed-off-by: Lagrang3 <lagrang3@protonmail.com>

rustyrussell added this to the v26.09 milestone May 20, 2026

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multiwithdraw: use unique ids on requests.

1175c3e

Shades of `efacada7ddf` which did the same thing in multifundchannel: (ab)used the id, which being a string, gave and id of 34 ("). Also clean up the leftover assert in multifundchannel. Signed-off-by: Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>

lightningd: internal cleanups since all non-command JSON IDs are stri…

013e247

…ngs. In particular, "struct jsonrpc_request"'s id is always a string. cmd->id isn't, though. We can also remove the now-unused json_get_id. Signed-off-by: Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>

common: hoist hash_str helper into its own header.

9851fad

We have three uses already, about to add a fourth. Signed-off-by: Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>

Add unit tests for str_to_u64

afd39db

Signed-off-by: Lagrang3 <lagrang3@protonmail.com>

common: hoist amount+currency parsing into common code.

eb0970a

Currently used for offers, we will use it for repeatpay too. Signed-off-by: Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>

downgrade: we need to remove "impressions" from askrene datastore whe…

795861d

…n downgrading to v26.06. Signed-off-by: Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>

xpay: actually tell askrene when a payment succeeded.

f41d189

Signed-off-by: Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>

askrene: correctly order constraints.

a20a565

Pure "constraints" don't care about order (they simply clamp max and min), but "impressions" are relative, so they do. Change the hashtable to keep them timestamp sorted. Signed-off-by: Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>

common: add helper to remove a range of elements

51404ff

from a tal array. Changelog-None Signed-off-by: Lagrang3 <lagrang3@protonmail.com>

askrene: don't leak channel intel entries

787dc81

On deletion of individual channel intel entries we need to free the pointer inside the structure. Changelog-None Signed-off-by: Lagrang3 <lagrang3@protonmail.com>

xpay: trim constraints: small optimization

c4df280

Use a single realloc to remove old entries. Changelog-None Signed-off-by: Lagrang3 <lagrang3@protonmail.com>

xpay: tests should expect the new error messages

a92a670

Changelog-None Signed-off-by: Lagrang3 <lagrang3@protonmail.com>

offers: limit invoices to 10 minutes for recurring offers in other cu…

9fa147e

…rrencies. Co-Authored-By: Claude Sonnet 4.6 <noreply@anthropic.com> Signed-off-by: Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>

fetchinvoice: handle weird labels in recurrence_label parameter.

cd2d6cc

Signed-off-by: Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>

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